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Aso, January 27th 2009 by Brian Edwards

Aso, January 27th, 2009 
 
Grey strands cannot pierce the stubborn black; 
not his style of leadership to wear his burden 
like a badge. This hair has been to Stanford. 
The hand that pushes the comb has shaken 
those of presidents and kings, signed money 
into coffers and the swag-bags of high office. 
Ancestors' hands pushed slaves into coalmines, 
came up clutching bags of wind that carried 
young Taro over the Pacific, stowed below 
deck on a whim. On the day he pays, he'll miss 
the quiet of a cocktail and a comic book, time 
to reflect on a simple life of privilege, to recall 
the rocketing heart of a young Catholic boy 
chased and taunted along the Honami river, 
a thousand miles from war, fifty years from 
hate, coal-black hair ballooned by Shinto wind. 

 

 

 

 

 

Reader Comments (23)

You putting this up in Critique, or is it done?

April 30, 2009 at 10:08AM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

Well, I thought it was, but you disagree . . . ?

April 30, 2009 at 10:29AM | Registered CommenterBrian Edwards

What makes you think I disagree?

April 30, 2009 at 10:38AM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

Oh, ok. Just wondered why you asked. Will you query every portfolio post similarly? Or are you just checking I posted in the right place?

April 30, 2009 at 10:45AM | Registered CommenterBrian Edwards

I shan't query every Portfolio post that has not gone through Critique, no. But, you do realise that according to current policy, this piece cannot be considered for publication, since it has not been exposed to Critique (whether it changes or not as a result of feedback)???

It can go to one's Portfolio without Critique, but it can't go to Publication without Critique, according to current policy.

April 30, 2009 at 10:51AM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

Policy comments welcome.

April 30, 2009 at 10:55AM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

I'd love to nominate this for publication, but according to the site Dictators, a piece has to go through Critique before it's eligible for their snooty publications.

April 30, 2009 at 11:06AM | Registered CommenterNew Here

Stoopit policy. The Eds should be banned for it.

April 30, 2009 at 11:26AM | Registered CommenterNew Here

Thanks for clarifying Shari. That throws up some interesting points worthy of discussion perhaps.
I'm sure we all have several poems that we would like to be considered for publication, but don't feel need "workshopping". Posting to critique just to enable eligibility without actually being up for revising, seems to defeat the purpose of the board.

B.

April 30, 2009 at 11:46AM | Registered CommenterBrian Edwards

Yes, it does open some discussion-worthy avenues. To me, "Critique" does NOT equal "Workshopping". I do not "workshop" my stuff; that's just not my style. It surely works for others, but not for me. That said, I will gratefully subject my material to Critique. Usually my stuff remains (mostly) unchanged, but I benefit hugely as a writer, from it being critiqued.

Semantics or Rheostatics?

April 30, 2009 at 12:14PM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

That is interesting. Does the word "workshop" appear anywhere on the site? Maybe I have the wrong idea about the crit boards . . ?

And I forgot to thank New Here for the support. But who the fuck are you?

B.

April 30, 2009 at 12:41PM | Registered CommenterBrian Edwards

New Here, in this instance, was me. It is a test account, so that as developer, I can see what a new user might encounter.
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I dunno if the term "workshop" appears anywhere. I doubt it, but it might. I'll look around. I hope not. "Workshop" is soooo not today.

FTR, my opinings on this topic are just that: mine. For me, the metaphor of the "workshop" just does not scale. Santa Claus excepted, the workshop has (in Canada) been a fairly sanctuary-ish place; a dominion in which to tinker uninterrupted by the typically unignorable screeches of naysayeres and better-do-wells. In the workshop, one is mostly by oneself, or at most with one or two close compatriots, whom one would trust around one's tools.

Critique, however... bring it on! I will gratefully subject my tinkered material to the most rigourous of critique. My stuff may or may not change, but it appreciates going through the laugh test.

If folks want "workshop", I'll figure out how to work it in.

We can accomodate different writing and editing styles. The gating issue, I fink, is the current policy of having to be willing to go through Critique, in order to be considered for Publication.

April 30, 2009 at 1:13PM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

"Authors will be given the opportunity to revise and refine and new work in a sympathetic but rigorous workshop environment, based on constructive criticism and positive suggestions received from fellow-writers and discerning readers. " From What is After Literature.

April 30, 2009 at 1:19PM | Registered CommenterBrian Edwards

Thanks!

April 30, 2009 at 1:23PM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

I'll have to duke it out with the rest of yus over "workshop".

April 30, 2009 at 1:24PM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

Don't mean to be a smart ass by posting that btw! Just occurred that7s how it might read!
As we have proven several times today already, semantics/rheostats are quite important.

I happen to agree with much of what you wrote above regards workshops and critique (for what that's worth)

April 30, 2009 at 1:26PM | Registered CommenterBrian Edwards

Goodness graciouscity! Please do not ever worry about being a smart ass around me. I come here from the interweb trenches of utter dumb assedness. I am confident we can find a joyous path.

We must speak our minds, confident others will ask, if we seem to be not making sense.

April 30, 2009 at 1:34PM | Registered CommenterShari-Lyn McArthur

hmmm.... firstly, i almost completely do not understand the above poem. that is the words make sense but i do not know (and am not made to care) who it is about, or why. not that i think it's bad. secondly, i actually prefer the idea or term workshop to critique, since i think it sounds friendlier. of course i would have no intention of taking any notice of suggestions made by others, and i trust no-one else would either. (i am being slightly facetious here, as usual). i think the policy of placing things in front of critique/workshop before publication is basically sound.

i do very much like the line "this hair has been to stanford", even though it may not be entirely accurate factually, on the 'same river twice' principle.

April 30, 2009 at 5:56PM | Registered Commenterpete pick

Pete, thanks for the look-see. That you do not care about the poem's subject is a good thing. Trust me.

But anyway, please take your critique to an appropriate venue and leave this portfolio space for fauning and fanzining only. Thanks.

(winking smiley)

May 4, 2009 at 8:35PM | Registered CommenterBrian Edwards

I don't know that Critiquing is necessarily an off-putting term, but I won't be dying in the trenches over it. The point for me is that the critiquing [insert euphemism here] process should be a key element of what we're about- allowing people to obtain informed responses to their work and to mesh as a community of writers. And until you've roadtested a piece I'm not so sure you can say that it is immutable and final. The policy of not featuring/publishing non-critiqued work is the only way of trying to ensure that this process happens. The site after all is free of charge-this is the only string we attach to spotlighting work.

May 17, 2009 at 8:24AM | Registered CommenterA.E. Plastic

Yup.

Is there any disagreement with this policy?

May 17, 2009 at 8:39AM | Registered CommenterBrian Edwards

Good Lord, I am way tooo ADHD to read this fucking thread, and I apologize if I throw a wrench in the works, but I kind of like the idea of our stuff going through crit. before going into port. but I also like (as I have) posting freely in it, what if there's a way to mark it as gone through a crit. verses just plopped? Organization people! lol ;)

May 17, 2009 at 2:46PM | Registered CommenterErika Hommel

The pragmatics as i see them are that we really want to encourage people to put their work up for comment and discussion - it's an intrinsic constituent of the communal/developmental approach we want to foster. I've always liked this poem and this version even more so. Gives a sense of a life lived and the circularity is satisfying without being forced or contrived.

May 23, 2009 at 9:42PM | Registered CommenterA.E. Plastic
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